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The Valley legacy
By:Jay Babina
Date: 4/1/2014, 8:37 am
In Response To: Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC* (John Messinger)

With all due respect to that Nordcapp, Valley set the standards of boat design that are being used today.

Recessed hatches, recessed deck fittings, recessed cockpits, hatch covers that don't leak, molded in seats (suspended), deck lines, pumps and day hatches. All of those things came from Valley and every manufacturer and wood builder has copied those innovations. Their heritage came from skilled paddlers with experience. What NDK did is make kayaks that are more friendly. (much greater initial stability). People with average skills can suddenly engage in conditions that they formally would not be able to do simply because of greater initial stability and to solve the other problem, they add a lot of rocker so you can turn it easily. Can't keep it going straight? we'll add a drop down skeg (another Valley innovation).

It's not easy to make light things that can take impact and abrasion. One of my earlier boats was a Necky kevlar Arluk, III. Super light and actually took quite a beating hitting rocks etc. Somehow it seems like the British really don't care about weight or don't want to take a chance on it.

Messages In This Thread

Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC*
John Messinger -- 3/30/2014, 9:23 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/30/2014, 11:12 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Bill Hamm -- 3/31/2014, 12:06 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 6:39 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/31/2014, 12:30 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
ancient kayaker -- 3/31/2014, 12:40 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Sean Dawe -- 3/31/2014, 12:48 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 3:59 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 3/31/2014, 4:29 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Sean Dawe -- 3/31/2014, 6:32 pm
With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!!!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 8:37 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
John Messinger -- 3/31/2014, 9:45 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2014, 12:30 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
JohnAbercrombie -- 3/31/2014, 10:12 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ancient kayaker -- 3/31/2014, 11:23 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2014, 12:34 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ancient kayaker -- 4/1/2014, 10:45 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
John Messinger -- 4/1/2014, 11:38 am
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:31 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:33 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
ancient kayaker -- 4/1/2014, 10:01 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/2/2014, 3:19 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
pre-bevelled -- 4/11/2014, 11:13 pm
Re: With All Due Respect: Stop, STOP, STAAAAHHHHP!
Bill Hamm -- 4/12/2014, 8:08 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Bill Hamm -- 4/1/2014, 12:26 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 4/1/2014, 4:17 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb! *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 4/1/2014, 4:20 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:36 pm
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Marc Upchurch -- 4/1/2014, 7:39 am
Re: Review: We Da Bomb!
Etienne Muller -- 4/1/2014, 1:44 pm
The Valley legacy
Jay Babina -- 4/1/2014, 8:37 am
Re: The Valley legacy
Sean Dawe -- 4/1/2014, 1:07 pm
Re: The Valley legacy
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/1/2014, 1:57 pm
Re: The Valley legacy
Jay Babina -- 4/1/2014, 3:11 pm
Re: The Valley legacy
JohnAbercrombie -- 4/1/2014, 4:57 pm
Re: The Valley legacy *PIC*
ddaniels -- 4/1/2014, 4:47 pm