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Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review
By:mick allen
Date: 5/8/2014, 11:25 pm
In Response To: Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review (JohnAbercrombie)

:I don't know if you are talking about the P65 rudder/skeg assembly details when you mention 'skeg details'...it's difficult to find info on either the P65 or the similar Epic rudder.... I have definitely looked, hard. I think these are non-patented designs that the companies want to 'protect' ? If anybody has blueprints/construction drawings, please post em!

The 2 videos on this page show most of the info one would need short of construction dwgs:

http://www.i-canoe.com/en/Used__Ex-demo__Secondhand.63/Point_65_Kayaks.112/P65-MERC-TAND/Point_65_Mercury_Tandem.1836.html

This would be an example of an integrated rudder 'with addition': ie the actual rear hull (integration) articulates.
The basic approach doesn't usually work too well as the integrated portions are shallow and at the extreme kayak ends - poor in waves. They of course, almost denote zero rocker - or in this case plus a little retractable addition to just make it right. The often exposed rudder horns are this time not too bad on top of the rear hull.

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Review: Freya' FREYA review *PIC*
Etienne Muller -- 5/6/2014, 11:26 am
Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review
JohnAbercrombie -- 5/6/2014, 1:28 pm
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Ancient kayaker -- 5/7/2014, 4:53 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 5/7/2014, 5:58 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 5/7/2014, 11:55 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 5/8/2014, 1:10 am
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Björn Thomasson -- 5/8/2014, 5:55 am
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Mike Bielski -- 5/8/2014, 2:36 pm
Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review
JohnAbercrombie -- 5/8/2014, 3:21 pm
Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review
mick allen -- 5/8/2014, 11:25 pm
Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review *PIC*
JohnAbercrombie -- 5/9/2014, 1:08 am
Re: Review: Freya' FREYA review
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 5/8/2014, 4:21 pm
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Mike Bielski -- 5/12/2014, 4:34 pm
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Robert W -- 5/8/2014, 3:33 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 5/8/2014, 3:58 pm
Kayak-ified Surf Skis *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 5/8/2014, 4:46 pm
Re: Kayak-ified Surf Skis
JohnAbercrombie -- 5/8/2014, 5:37 pm
Re: Kayak-ified Surf Skis
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 5/9/2014, 8:30 am
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Björn Thomasson -- 5/9/2014, 1:56 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 5/12/2014, 6:32 am
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Robert W -- 5/12/2014, 10:47 am
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Björn Thomasson -- 5/12/2014, 11:34 am
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Robert W -- 5/13/2014, 2:56 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 5/13/2014, 4:04 pm
Re: Kayak-ified Surf Skis
Björn Thomasson -- 5/13/2014, 4:19 pm
Re: Kayak-ified Surf Skis
anewhouse -- 5/13/2014, 10:35 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/12/2014, 7:27 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 5/12/2014, 11:58 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/13/2014, 8:18 am
Re: Surf ski-ified Kayak *PIC*
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 5/13/2014, 9:14 am
Re: Surf ski-ified Kayak
Marc Upchurch -- 5/13/2014, 4:45 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 5/13/2014, 5:05 pm
Re: Surf ski-ified Kayak
Björn Thomasson -- 5/14/2014, 2:39 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Bill Hamm -- 5/13/2014, 12:53 am
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Marc Upchurch -- 5/13/2014, 8:22 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Bill Hamm -- 5/14/2014, 1:21 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Björn Thomasson -- 5/14/2014, 2:43 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/14/2014, 12:57 pm
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Craig -- 5/15/2014, 2:59 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/15/2014, 4:39 pm
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Craig Robinson -- 5/16/2014, 12:59 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/16/2014, 8:51 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Craig -- 5/16/2014, 11:04 pm
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Craig -- 5/16/2014, 11:06 pm
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Craig -- 5/16/2014, 11:08 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 5/18/2014, 12:16 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Craig -- 5/18/2014, 3:06 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/16/2014, 11:16 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Etienne Muller -- 5/17/2014, 3:52 am
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Craig -- 5/17/2014, 6:02 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 5/17/2014, 12:15 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified *PIC*
JohnAbercrombie -- 5/17/2014, 12:44 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 5/17/2014, 8:19 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
JohnAbercrombie -- 5/17/2014, 8:54 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Marc Upchurch -- 5/17/2014, 9:15 pm
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Bill Hamm -- 5/18/2014, 12:18 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified - Thanks
Marc Upchurch -- 5/18/2014, 10:03 am
Re: Kayak- Surf Ski-ified
Bill Hamm -- 5/15/2014, 2:31 pm
Re: Kayak-ified Surf Skis Correction
Marc Upchurch -- 5/12/2014, 7:32 pm