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Patent 6779477 *PIC*
By:Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks
Date: 8/19/2015, 8:48 am
In Response To: Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak (Victor)

And just to be precise - the patent is not for recessed cockpit

Correct, that would be this one: https://www.google.com/patents/USD464303
but for "invention relates to wooden kayaks made of wooden panels that are stitched together and glued at the joints, after which the entire kayak is covered inside and out in fiberglass" so it might not be a concern for many.

However, Note Part 10 of Patent 67747:
10. A method of forming a cockpit for a kayak having a deck defining a cockpit opening, the method comprising the steps of:

This means the patent is also for a method of making this kind of cockpit. I.e. if you use panels of material to make a plug, then the fiberglass kayak made from that plug also infringes. So, this pertains to all composite kayaks, because, this is pretty much how one makes a plug. In the US, even non-commercial use can be an infringement.

Anyway I'm pretty sure I've seen a recessed cockpit with plywood boats before 2002 year but obviously no one patented this before.

More specifically, in the application for this patent no prior art showing recessed cockpits were provided to the patent examiner, so based on on what the examiner was aware of, this recess was a new innovation and thus patentable. Patent examiners don't need to be experts in things like kayaks so it is possible to get patents on ideas that are old, or invented by someone else.

This patent never should have been approved, but it was, so it can be used to attempt to scare people away from incorporating a common feature in their designs.

A Blazing Aspen "Murrellet" kayak from Sea Kayaker Magazine in April 2000

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A Current Designs "Gulfstream" introduced in 1999.

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1887 King Island SOF drawn by Harvey Golden.

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S&G: first multi-chine kayak
warren williamson -- 8/17/2015, 10:41 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Etienne Muller -- 8/18/2015, 3:44 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak *PIC*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/18/2015, 8:12 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Justin -- 8/18/2015, 10:38 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 8/18/2015, 11:04 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Victor -- 8/18/2015, 11:41 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
warren williamson -- 8/18/2015, 12:17 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Justin -- 8/18/2015, 1:36 pm
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bsoderholm -- 8/18/2015, 3:08 pm
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Justin -- 8/18/2015, 3:57 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/18/2015, 10:19 pm
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Pete -- 8/18/2015, 11:00 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Jay babina -- 10/20/2015, 11:43 am
Patent Foolishness
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/21/2015, 11:21 am
Patent 6779477 *PIC*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/19/2015, 8:48 am
Re: Patent 6779477
Bill Hamm -- 8/19/2015, 5:07 pm
Re: Patent 6779477
Bill Hamm -- 10/20/2015, 3:26 am
Re: Patent 6779477
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/20/2015, 9:59 am
Re: Patent 6779477
Bill Hamm -- 10/20/2015, 2:00 pm
Re: Patent 6779477
Björn Thomasson -- 11/1/2017, 6:03 pm
Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
mick allen -- 8/18/2015, 7:02 pm
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
warren williamson -- 8/19/2015, 1:15 am
Recessed Ckpt Patent: the Guy
mick allen -- 8/19/2015, 3:47 am
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
Bill Hamm -- 8/19/2015, 5:12 pm
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/20/2015, 8:15 am
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent *PIC*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/19/2015, 8:56 am
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
Rod Tait -- 8/19/2015, 11:37 am
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/19/2015, 1:04 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 8/20/2015, 10:22 am
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Daniel Thaler -- 8/20/2015, 12:58 pm
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warren williamson -- 8/20/2015, 2:39 pm
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 8/20/2015, 3:52 pm
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Rod Tait -- 8/20/2015, 4:40 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 8/20/2015, 5:46 pm
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Shawn Jones -- 8/26/2015, 4:34 am
Re: Patents *PIC*
Shawn Jones -- 8/26/2015, 4:59 am
Re: Patents *PIC*
Dan Thaler -- 10/11/2015, 6:47 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/2/2017, 10:20 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/2/2017, 11:01 am
Re: Pygmy Recessed Ckpt Patent
mick allen -- 8/19/2015, 10:11 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Brian Nystrom -- 8/19/2015, 7:30 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
daan Daaniels -- 10/18/2015, 2:53 pm
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daan Daniels -- 10/18/2015, 2:55 pm
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Marc Upchurch -- 10/18/2015, 3:44 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak *PIC*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/18/2015, 8:56 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Björn Thomasson -- 11/1/2017, 6:44 pm
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mick allen -- 11/1/2017, 7:41 pm
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Björn Thomasson -- 11/2/2017, 4:15 am
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/2/2017, 8:36 am
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mick allen -- 11/3/2017, 10:40 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/2/2017, 9:14 am
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M A Bielski -- 11/3/2017, 7:55 am
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/3/2017, 9:19 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/3/2017, 12:26 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/3/2017, 5:01 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/3/2017, 5:21 pm
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M A Bielski -- 11/3/2017, 11:40 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/4/2017, 6:26 pm
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Jay Babina -- 11/4/2017, 7:33 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 11/4/2017, 8:24 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 11/4/2017, 11:17 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 11/5/2017, 3:50 am
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Etienne Muller -- 11/5/2017, 3:54 am
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Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak
Bill Hamm -- 11/2/2017, 9:10 pm
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Bill Hamm -- 11/2/2017, 9:37 pm
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LeeG -- 10/19/2015, 5:35 pm
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mick allen -- 10/20/2015, 1:26 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak *PIC*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/20/2015, 11:00 am
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak *PIC*
mick allen -- 10/20/2015, 8:28 pm
Re: S&G: first multi-chine kayak *PIC*
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/20/2015, 9:56 pm
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mick allen -- 10/21/2015, 4:06 pm
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mick allen -- 10/31/2017, 1:48 pm
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Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 10/31/2017, 6:03 pm
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