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Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
By:JohnAbercrombie
Date: 1/5/2017, 12:23 pm
In Response To: Other: Over-Thinking It (Steve Solomon)

I was clearly being told to “shut up.”

I read the post here often (daily usually) and I've never seen a 'shut up' statement.
I do read (often) notes of thanks from beginner builders who appreciate the 'accumulated knowledge' here - both in the active participants and the archived posts available via search. Those of us who are older (actually old!) remember the good old days where there was no internet and you were 'on your own' with just (if you were lucky) a book in the public library for reference. So a forum like this is a wonder to me - with any flaws included.
My view of how forums (kayak-related, diy electronics, backpacking and hammocking - I participate in a number) work best is for beginners to ask questions and pay attention to the answers they get, for more experienced participants to answer the simplest questions, so that the real experts can deal with the more difficult questions.
A personal example: I used to complain that hot melt glue was useless, messy, etc.. Rob Macks came back with a detailed description of the glue and glue gun he uses, and several other experienced users added comments. I stopped complaining and arguing about the merits of hot melt glue, and some months later spent the cash to get a (much) better gun and glue sticks.
When a 'pro' builder whose time really 'is money' gives me advice, I try to listen, not argue.

I used to be a high school science teacher. In the 90s teachers noticed the rise of the 'don't disrespect' culture. This translated into the idea that 'everybody's opinion is equally valid' and the idea of expertise somehow violates the rights of the uninformed. I actually had students tell me on a number of occasions (when I was explaining some idea in chemistry or physics) that: "That's your opinion, my opinion is different; don't disrespect me by saying it isn't valid."
Needless to say, this could result in endless round-and-round on the same topic!
This has evolved into today's 'snowflake' culture where people need protection and a 'safe place' from having their ideas questioned.

As folks often remind us here, there are quite a few different ways of building a kayak. I'm always interested when people report on their experience actually trying out a different (from the 'accepted wisdom') method.
Reports with actual comparative testing are the best - in my opinion.

Messages In This Thread

Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 9:15 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 10:26 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 10:52 am
Withdrawl
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 12:31 pm
Re: Withdrawl
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 12:45 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 11:22 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick R. -- 1/5/2017, 10:42 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 11:07 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Walt -- 1/5/2017, 1:01 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 1:43 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Les Cheeseman -- 1/5/2017, 2:31 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/5/2017, 11:32 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 12:26 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
John Messinger -- 1/5/2017, 1:04 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Etienne Muller -- 1/5/2017, 3:27 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 11:57 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Etienne Muller -- 1/5/2017, 3:31 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/5/2017, 4:33 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 12:23 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
GCole -- 1/5/2017, 1:06 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 1:16 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/5/2017, 1:49 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It *PIC*
Roy Martin -- 1/5/2017, 2:14 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It *PIC*
Roy Martin -- 1/5/2017, 2:17 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 2:26 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter -- 1/6/2017, 8:52 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/6/2017, 10:25 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/6/2017, 10:47 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/6/2017, 11:34 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/7/2017, 12:40 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 9:51 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 10:53 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/7/2017, 11:12 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 1:41 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/7/2017, 3:01 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 3:47 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/7/2017, 5:25 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/8/2017, 12:25 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/8/2017, 9:55 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/8/2017, 11:22 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/8/2017, 3:54 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Mayberry -- 1/8/2017, 5:36 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/9/2017, 1:17 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/9/2017, 4:54 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/9/2017, 8:09 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/12/2017, 1:26 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/15/2017, 5:29 am
Cluture Comment - Yes
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 2:11 pm
Re: Cluture Comment - Yes
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 2:45 pm
Re: Cluture Comment - Yes
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 3:46 pm
Re: Cluture Comment - Yes
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 4:33 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Etienne Muller -- 1/5/2017, 3:52 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/5/2017, 5:11 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/5/2017, 5:41 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It *PIC*
scottbaxter -- 1/5/2017, 5:59 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 6:09 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
scottbaxter -- 1/5/2017, 6:32 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 7:17 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 7:39 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 10:39 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Bill Hamm -- 1/6/2017, 3:32 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/6/2017, 10:22 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Bill Hamm -- 1/8/2017, 12:31 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 6:14 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
John -- 1/5/2017, 6:32 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick R. -- 1/5/2017, 6:41 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 6:57 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/5/2017, 7:41 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 11:51 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Bill Hamm -- 1/6/2017, 3:09 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Les Cheeseman -- 1/6/2017, 9:46 am
How the forum functions
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/6/2017, 11:29 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/6/2017, 11:03 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/6/2017, 11:57 am