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Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
By:Steve Solomon
Date: 1/5/2017, 2:26 pm
In Response To: Re: Other: Over-Thinking It (Randy Echtinaw)

I joined this forum approx. 3 years ago and have so far built 4 kayaks, I am still a beginner, I still learn much from the "experts" posts. Occassionally I ask a question or make a comment but rarely.
The point being, the work "lurker" is, to me, a misnomer, makes me sound like some sort of criminal element. I am here to learn from builders far, far more knowledgeable than I.
A teacher stands in front of a class and teaches, does this make the students "lurkers?" I don't think so. Someone has to teach and that person usually knows more than the students and has better vocal skills than the students. Someday the students will know as much as the teacher, until that day comes I will be very happy to continue my roll as "lurker" student.

Once again I apologize if my use of the term "lurker" caused offense. That said, I'd like to politely push back on your comments. In my view, discussion forums need participation in order to avoid going stale. How many times can you read the same answers to the same newbie questions that people like me are going to ask? Further, if someone wants to just learn from experts, well, those experts write books, teach classes, and sell plans - those are all much better, more reliable sources for basic information. In any case, I don't think true learning comes from passively listening to what "the experts" have to say anyway - I believe Rob has a quote to that effect, in fact.

In any case, who are these "experts?" There's no "one right way" to do anything - it's all about trade-offs specific to what each person is trying to accomplish. You don't have to have your Certified Master Kayak Builder badge in order to have valuable information about, say, heating a basement workshop, or finding a source for marine plywood in Greenland, or a new or interesting thing to use as a clamp. Everybody potentially has something worth bringing to the table, if they're willing to share - I believe everyone here is likely an expert at something. That's what makes it a "community."

You've built 3 biplanes and 4 kayaks - that's amazingly cool. I have to assume there are aspects of biplane construction that are relevant to kayak building - or maybe you just have some good stories. I for one would like to hear them.

Messages In This Thread

Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 9:15 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 10:26 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 10:52 am
Withdrawl
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 12:31 pm
Re: Withdrawl
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 12:45 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 11:22 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick R. -- 1/5/2017, 10:42 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 11:07 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Walt -- 1/5/2017, 1:01 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 1:43 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Les Cheeseman -- 1/5/2017, 2:31 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/5/2017, 11:32 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 12:26 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
John Messinger -- 1/5/2017, 1:04 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Etienne Muller -- 1/5/2017, 3:27 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 11:57 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Etienne Muller -- 1/5/2017, 3:31 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/5/2017, 4:33 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 12:23 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
GCole -- 1/5/2017, 1:06 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
JohnAbercrombie -- 1/5/2017, 1:16 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/5/2017, 1:49 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It *PIC*
Roy Martin -- 1/5/2017, 2:14 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It *PIC*
Roy Martin -- 1/5/2017, 2:17 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 2:26 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter -- 1/6/2017, 8:52 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/6/2017, 10:25 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/6/2017, 10:47 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/6/2017, 11:34 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/7/2017, 12:40 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 9:51 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 10:53 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/7/2017, 11:12 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 1:41 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/7/2017, 3:01 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/7/2017, 3:47 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/7/2017, 5:25 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/8/2017, 12:25 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/8/2017, 9:55 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Marc Upchurch -- 1/8/2017, 11:22 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/8/2017, 3:54 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Mayberry -- 1/8/2017, 5:36 pm
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/9/2017, 1:17 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/9/2017, 4:54 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/9/2017, 8:09 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Bill Hamm -- 1/12/2017, 1:26 am
Re: SOF kayak and biplane construction
Peter F Lord -- 1/15/2017, 5:29 am
Cluture Comment - Yes
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 2:11 pm
Re: Cluture Comment - Yes
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 2:45 pm
Re: Cluture Comment - Yes
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 3:46 pm
Re: Cluture Comment - Yes
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 4:33 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Etienne Muller -- 1/5/2017, 3:52 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/5/2017, 5:11 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Randy Echtinaw -- 1/5/2017, 5:41 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It *PIC*
scottbaxter -- 1/5/2017, 5:59 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 6:09 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
scottbaxter -- 1/5/2017, 6:32 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 7:17 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Marc Upchurch -- 1/5/2017, 7:39 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 10:39 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Bill Hamm -- 1/6/2017, 3:32 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/6/2017, 10:22 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Bill Hamm -- 1/8/2017, 12:31 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 6:14 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
John -- 1/5/2017, 6:32 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick R. -- 1/5/2017, 6:41 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 6:57 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/5/2017, 7:41 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Steve Solomon -- 1/5/2017, 11:51 pm
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Bill Hamm -- 1/6/2017, 3:09 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Les Cheeseman -- 1/6/2017, 9:46 am
How the forum functions
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 1/6/2017, 11:29 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/6/2017, 11:03 am
Re: Other: Over-Thinking It
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 1/6/2017, 11:57 am