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Re: Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat
By:John Lange
Date: 9/30/1998, 8:02 pm
In Response To: Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat (Brian C.)

> Second, and this probably should be in a different thread, how hard are
> touring kayaks to roll vs. a white water boat?

In my experience the fit of the cockpit has a greater bearing on being able to roll a boat than the type of kayak. Although what everyone else has said about wetted surface, more boat to roll, etc... is all true, if you can't brace your feet and knees in the boat you are going to have a tough time getting a good hip snap, which is a crucial part of success. Many many commercial sea kayaks have extra large cockpits that are too big for even the most bow-legged cowboy (the selling point appears to appeal to those people who fear "getting trapped" in the cockpit should the boat flip). I would guess that the greater width of many commercial boats also makes it more difficult.

Although looking at diagrams is helpful (use the site mentioned earlier, or buy "The Bombproof Roll"), nothing beats someone helping you learn. Good technique is crucial, it is possible to succeed in rolling but expose your shoulders to great danger. If they start to hurt when you are practicing, then change your technique (usually pull your elbows into your body).

Good Luck!!

Messages In This Thread

Hatch Holdown pictures
Ross Leidy -- 9/30/1998, 9:50 am
Magnetic hatch hold-downs ... Not my idea
Ralph Matthews -- 10/8/1998, 5:14 pm
Re: Magnetic hatch hold-downs ... Not my idea
Nolan Penney -- 10/9/1998, 7:06 am
Re: Magnetic hatch hold-downs ... Velcro?
Mark Kanzler -- 10/10/1998, 12:16 am
Re: Magnetic hatch hold-downs ... Velcro?
Nolan Penney -- 10/9/1998, 2:34 pm
Re:hatch hold-downs ... Brainstorming?
Mark Kanzler -- 10/9/1998, 3:35 pm
Re:hatch hold-downs ... Brainstorming?
Nolan Penney -- 10/13/1998, 7:59 am
Re:hatch hold-downs ... Brainstorming?
Mike Spence -- 10/9/1998, 11:01 pm
Re:hatch hold-downs ... Brainstorming?
Don Beale -- 10/9/1998, 6:41 pm
Re: Hatch Holdown pictures
Jim Ward -- 9/30/1998, 6:12 pm
Re: Hatch Holdown pictures
Ross Leidy -- 9/30/1998, 9:30 pm
Re: Hatch Seal
Mark Kanzler -- 9/30/1998, 6:35 pm
Re: Hatch Seal
Brian C. -- 10/1/1998, 10:23 am
Re: Hatch Seal
Mark Kanzler -- 10/1/1998, 10:48 am
remote hatch release
Brian C. -- 9/30/1998, 10:21 am
Re: remote hatch release
Nick Schade -- 9/30/1998, 2:15 pm
More remote hatch release
Tor-Henrik Furmyr -- 9/30/1998, 1:13 pm
you could even lock it, cool!
Brian C. -- 9/30/1998, 3:10 pm
Re: you could even lock it, cool!
Mark Kanzler -- 9/30/1998, 4:48 pm
Re: remote hatch release
Tor-Henrik Furmyr -- 9/30/1998, 1:08 pm
Re: remote hatch release
Mark Kanzler -- 9/30/1998, 11:01 am
Re: Hatch Holdown pictures
Jay Babina -- 9/30/1998, 10:10 am
Re: Hatch Holdown pictures
Jim Gabriel -- 9/30/1998, 5:13 pm
Re: Not fully tested for watertightness
Ross Leidy -- 9/30/1998, 11:45 am
Re: Rolling
Nick Schade -- 9/30/1998, 2:42 pm
Found an instructor -- He rolled a CANOE
Brian C. -- 10/2/1998, 12:07 am
Re: Found an instructor -- He rolled a CANOE
Nolan Penney -- 10/1/1998, 1:30 pm
Re: Found an instructor -- He rolled a CANOE
Mark Kanzler -- 10/2/1998, 12:24 am
Tom Jenkins
Brian C. -- 10/1/1998, 5:35 pm
Re: Tom Jenkins
Mark Kanzler -- 10/1/1998, 6:01 pm
Re: Tom Jenkins
Brian C. -- 10/1/1998, 6:09 pm
Re: Tom Jenkins
Mark Kanzler -- 10/1/1998, 6:15 pm
That would be the Dallas Down River Club
Brian C. -- 10/1/1998, 6:37 pm
Re: OIC
Mark Kanzler -- 10/3/1998, 12:23 am
None taken
Brian C. -- 10/3/1998, 12:32 am
Re: Pawlata Roll
Jay Babina -- 10/1/1998, 10:14 am
Re: Pawlata Roll
L.C. -- 10/1/1998, 5:43 pm
Re: Pawlata Roll
Jay Babina -- 10/2/1998, 11:26 am
Is this video any good?
Brian C. -- 10/1/1998, 5:52 pm
Re: Is this video any good?
Mike Scarborough -- 10/1/1998, 8:27 pm
Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat
Brian C. -- 9/30/1998, 3:27 pm
Re: Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat
Nick Schade -- 10/1/1998, 8:48 pm
Re: Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat
John Lange -- 9/30/1998, 8:02 pm
Re: Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat
Dave Caudill -- 10/7/1998, 1:24 pm
Re: Rolling a touring Kayak vs a WhiteWater boat
Ross Leidy -- 9/30/1998, 4:06 pm
Re: Upswept bow and stern.
Timothy - Toronto, Ontario -- 10/2/1998, 9:44 am