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Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions?
By:Steve Solomon
Date: 12/27/2016, 4:32 pm
In Response To: Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions? (Etienne Muller)

Adding ballast is a complete mugs game IMO. Why would one want unnecessary inertia? Rather have more than one boat and use the appropriate vessel. I use my North Star for expeditions, my Hunter for rolling, and messing around if I want to get wet, my Ootek for day trips and playing in the waves, my Houndstooth for racing, etc.

Uh oh! Not trying to start any trouble! I'm just trying to understand the trade-offs and implications of various design choices. I'd never heard of using ballast before, and my initial reaction was as you wrote - why add unnecessary inertia? But in thinking on it, I suppose it depends on your goal - if you're training for an expedition, then it'd make sense to do that in the boat and cargo load you intend to use.

You will find your baidarka combines the features of speed, room and easy trimming quite well. The rocker distribution in the hull allows for a shorter waterline upwind and side wind, but down wind the keel at the bow will dip below the surface lengthening the waterline and effectively moving your seat rearward relative to the waterline. The effect is that you won't broach as quickly.

this is a feature of Rob's baidarkas which is probably not consciously understood by most users.

I would still add a skeg though.

I'm not having any regrets about my choice so far - looking forward to actually getting it out on the water someday! I do intend to add Rob's skeg - was just thinking about cutting the slot for it, in fact. Seems like it'll be easier to do that now, just need to confirm the exact position.

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Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions?
Rich D -- 12/24/2016, 3:22 pm
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jaybabina -- 12/25/2016, 8:15 am
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Rich D -- 12/25/2016, 2:20 pm
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jaybabina -- 12/25/2016, 6:06 pm
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Paul Sylvester -- 12/26/2016, 7:05 am
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Rich D -- 12/26/2016, 8:19 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 1:05 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 1:28 pm
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Rich D -- 12/26/2016, 7:09 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 8:21 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 9:00 pm
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Paul Sylvester -- 12/27/2016, 5:38 am
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 9:14 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/27/2016, 9:49 am
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 11:30 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/27/2016, 12:37 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/27/2016, 3:40 pm
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 4:32 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/27/2016, 4:57 pm
Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions? *PIC*
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 12/27/2016, 5:20 pm
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 6:25 pm
Yes
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 12/27/2016, 6:42 pm
Re: Yes
JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 12:11 pm
Re: Yes *PIC*
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 12/28/2016, 12:55 pm
Re: Yes
Thomas Duncan -- 12/28/2016, 1:10 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/28/2016, 1:43 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 2:51 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/28/2016, 7:11 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 7:31 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/29/2016, 4:37 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/29/2016, 8:15 am
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 12/29/2016, 10:39 am
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Etienne Muller -- 12/29/2016, 1:04 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 2:52 pm
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Rich D -- 12/28/2016, 5:07 pm
Changing the Subject
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/29/2016, 8:46 pm
Re: Changing the Subject
JohnAbercrombie -- 12/29/2016, 10:04 pm
Re: Changing the Subject
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/30/2016, 11:28 am
Re: Changing the Subject
Etienne Muller -- 12/30/2016, 4:01 am