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Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions?
By:Steve Solomon
Date: 12/27/2016, 6:25 pm
In Response To: Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions? *PIC* (Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K)

Aleut style iqyax with rockered keel line sweeping up to the bow tip (no "foot") along with flare and volume prevent broaching and allow greater control surfing waves.

I am now speaking well beyond my pay grade, but I'm waiting for some glue to cure so what the heck...

From my sailing days of long ago, I recollect that a following sea was the worst - the most difficult scenario to maintain control. Seems to me that aside from the shape of the bow, the truncated stern (and resulting asymmetry) would offer some advantages in a following sea as well. First, when a swell comes up behind you, seems like the truncated stern would have less tendency to raise the stern / bury the bow than would a design with more reserve buoyancy aft. Second, and I'm less sure about this but it follows from what Et wrote, I'm assuming that normally, in a flat sea, your paddle position / center of effort is balanced to try to minimize turning force and maximize forward thrust from each paddle stroke, but with the asymmetrical design of the baidarka, when the bow goes in it's only the forward waterline length that's extended - therefore your center of effort moves back, and the turning force from the paddle stroke increases, which is what you want when you're fighting a tendency to broach.

Is that remotely accurate?

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Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions?
Rich D -- 12/24/2016, 3:22 pm
Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions?
jaybabina -- 12/25/2016, 8:15 am
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Rich D -- 12/25/2016, 2:20 pm
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jaybabina -- 12/25/2016, 6:06 pm
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Paul Sylvester -- 12/26/2016, 7:05 am
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Rich D -- 12/26/2016, 8:19 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 1:05 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 1:28 pm
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Rich D -- 12/26/2016, 7:09 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 8:21 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/26/2016, 9:00 pm
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Paul Sylvester -- 12/27/2016, 5:38 am
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 9:14 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/27/2016, 9:49 am
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 11:30 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/27/2016, 12:37 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/27/2016, 3:40 pm
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Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 4:32 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/27/2016, 4:57 pm
Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions? *PIC*
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 12/27/2016, 5:20 pm
Re: Strip: Outer Island Cockpit Dimensions?
Steve Solomon -- 12/27/2016, 6:25 pm
Yes
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 12/27/2016, 6:42 pm
Re: Yes
JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 12:11 pm
Re: Yes *PIC*
Rob Macks/Laughing Loon CC&K -- 12/28/2016, 12:55 pm
Re: Yes
Thomas Duncan -- 12/28/2016, 1:10 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/28/2016, 1:43 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 2:51 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/28/2016, 7:11 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 7:31 pm
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Etienne Muller -- 12/29/2016, 4:37 am
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/29/2016, 8:15 am
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Dan Caouette (CSCWC) -- 12/29/2016, 10:39 am
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Etienne Muller -- 12/29/2016, 1:04 pm
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JohnAbercrombie -- 12/28/2016, 2:52 pm
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Rich D -- 12/28/2016, 5:07 pm
Changing the Subject
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/29/2016, 8:46 pm
Re: Changing the Subject
JohnAbercrombie -- 12/29/2016, 10:04 pm
Re: Changing the Subject
Nick Schade - Guillemot Kayaks -- 12/30/2016, 11:28 am
Re: Changing the Subject
Etienne Muller -- 12/30/2016, 4:01 am